1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Have extraterrestrials ever visited Earth? 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:17,000 Not long ago in Phoenix, Arizona, some say they looked up and saw this. 3 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,000 Was there a UFO over Phoenix? 4 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,000 Come on, be an aircraft or something. 5 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:29,000 Late at night when you look into the sky, what do you see? 6 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,000 No! 7 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,000 No! 8 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:05,000 UFOs have fascinated human beings for years. 9 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:10,000 We've all seen movies about aliens, but could it actually happen in real life? 10 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,000 For some people, the answer is clear. 11 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:20,000 In a universe of infinite size, to assume where the only intelligent life is, well, stupid. 12 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:24,000 But so far there's no proof. Or is there? 13 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:34,000 There are people who say there was a UFO event in 1997, one that's never been explained. 14 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:40,000 It was the night of the 19th in Phoenix, Arizona, a totally normal night. 15 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:45,000 That was about to get extremely strange. 16 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:52,000 At some time between 8.15 and 8.45 p.m., a sighting was reported. 17 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:57,000 A V-shaped object was near the town of Pauldin. 18 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:04,000 Then, witnesses say it moved southeast, passing over Phoenix at about 8.30 p.m. 19 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:09,000 Just after 8.45 p.m., it disappeared. 20 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:16,000 Hundreds of people said they saw it, but this is the only videotape that exists. 21 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:23,000 A retired pilot named Terry Proctor captured the video from the front yard of his house 22 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:27,000 in the town of Scottsdale, just north of Phoenix. 23 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:32,000 At about 8.28 that evening, I was outside with my video camera 24 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:36,000 and happened to look up, right about up in there, 25 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:40,000 and a station of lights moving from north to south. 26 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:45,000 To supplement Terry's video evidence, Tim Lee created this computer illustration. 27 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:50,000 This is what Tim says flew over his home in north-central Phoenix. 28 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:56,000 The right arm of the object went directly over this house, over the property, 29 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:04,000 and the left arm of that was probably about two and a half blocks over in that direction. 30 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:09,000 You could see that between the lights on each arm was solid. 31 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:13,000 There was no stars. You could not see any stars between each light. 32 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:21,000 Soon, witnesses say the object headed northwest and disappeared. 33 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,000 But the show wasn't nearly over. 34 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:28,000 Around 10 p.m. a second strange light pattern appeared. 35 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:32,000 This one in the skies over Phoenix. 36 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:38,000 And this time, at least four people in the area recorded the sighting on video. 37 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,000 Chuck Rarejinn was one of them. 38 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,000 It was around 9.55, 10 o'clock. 39 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,000 I went out to turn off our watering system, 40 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:48,000 and as I walked out the back porch, the city lights were underneath, 41 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,000 and there were these nine lights suspended in the sky. 42 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:56,000 Across town, Mike Kirsten saw the same thing. 43 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,000 I just got done watching television about 10 o'clock, 44 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:06,000 and I went out in my patio in our home faces southwest across the city of Phoenix. 45 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:10,000 Mike noticed an amber light hovering above one of the nearby mountain peaks. 46 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,000 He ran inside and grabbed his video camera. 47 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,000 Figure this one out. Here's a devil. 48 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:20,000 Suddenly, as he was recording, more lights appeared. 49 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:25,000 One by one, they lit up, forming an arc. 50 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:30,000 Mike wondered, was someone, or something, trying to send a message? 51 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:37,000 Steve Blonder thought so. He was actually the lights to appear that night. 52 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,000 Why? 53 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:47,000 Because during each of the previous four nights, he had seen mysterious lights hovering in the sky. 54 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:53,000 Individual, orange, amber-type lights every single night, around 10 after 9. 55 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:58,000 Steve was so sure the lights would appear, he called in Bill Hamilton and Tom King. 56 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:03,000 Two local UFO investigators. 57 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:07,000 They jumped at the chance to document a UFO sighting in progress. 58 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:12,000 As they watched the sky, one of Steve's neighbors shouted. 59 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:17,000 There's another one! 60 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,000 I had no idea what it was. 61 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:24,000 Did anyone know? Bill Griner thinks so. 62 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:30,000 30 miles to the northwest, Bill was driving his truck near Luke Air Force Base. 63 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:38,000 He says that the military was verited in those unidentified lights in the sky. 64 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:45,000 Bill says he watched three jets take off, and as soon as they were in the air... 65 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:52,000 All three jets made an abrupt turn and headed for the closest object to the base, which was in the southwest. 66 00:05:52,000 --> 00:06:00,000 And as soon as the jets got to the object, it shot straight up and disappeared right in front of me. 67 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:07,000 Soon the phones at the National UFO Reporting Center in Seattle, Washington were ringing off the hook. 68 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,000 National UFO Reporting Center, good afternoon. 69 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,000 The center is a privately run organization. 70 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:18,000 They gather information on UFO sightings and then make their reports available to the public. 71 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,000 Peter Davenport runs the center. 72 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:26,000 We certainly took more than a hundred reports all told about this incident. 73 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:34,000 I think clearly that something very unusual had taken place over approximately two dozen cities in Arizona. 74 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:38,000 Unusual? Definitely. 75 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:43,000 Extraterrestrial? The public demanded an investigation. 76 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:51,000 The authorities refused to investigate. Did they have something to hide? 77 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:55,000 Come on, be an aircraft or something. 78 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,000 Find out next on Truth or Scare. 79 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:11,000 So far, we know some very mysterious lights appeared in the Arizona sky in 1997. 80 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:15,000 Twice. Hundreds of eyewitnesses came forward. 81 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:21,000 A few of them even made homemade video tapes. And all of them had questions. 82 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:27,000 The first place many people turned was to the local TV news. 83 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,000 12 news. Blair Meeks. 84 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:35,000 Phone calls start happening. Boom. What are these strange lights? What are these strange lights? We're seeing lights over here. We're seeing lights over there. 85 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:39,000 This is video of what thousands of Arizonans saw March 13th. 86 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,000 Many of you saw this row of lights. 87 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:46,000 Local TV reporter Jim Schneebelt was trying to sort everything out. 88 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:52,000 Some people reported seeing lights at 8.15. Other people reported seeing lights at 10.15. 89 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:59,000 Some people saw them as stationary objects over the city. Some people saw them as moving objects coming in from the north. 90 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:08,000 But while people swam TV and radio stations with phone calls, Luke is claimed that no one had called them with any sighting. 91 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:14,000 Well, that's an interesting statement because I called them twice that night myself. 92 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:21,000 This copy of his long distance bill shows that Peter did call. He says he spoke to operator number five. 93 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:30,000 Very nice, very accommodating young woman who admitted to me that her switchboard that night, the 13th of March, had been, to use her term, 94 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:37,000 paralyzed by calls to the switchboard about the object that had flown over Arizona earlier that night. 95 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:42,000 If the Air Force did receive these calls, no one knows why they would deny it. 96 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:48,000 Dozens of eyewitnesses and concerned citizens asked for some kind of government investigation. 97 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:52,000 But for two months, nothing happened. 98 00:08:54,000 --> 00:09:02,000 Then on May 6th, 1997, at a Phoenix City Council meeting, Councilwoman Frances Barwood asked why. 99 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:07,000 I said, can we find out why nobody's investigating? Can we look at? And there was this silence. 100 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:11,000 People are starting to ask more questions. Thanks. 101 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,000 Thank you. 102 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:18,000 No one on the city council thought that an investigation was necessary. But Frances wouldn't give up. 103 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:23,000 She kept pushing the city, trying to get officials to take the eyewitness reports seriously. 104 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:31,000 Just when things seemed hopeless, Frances's hard work finally paid off. 105 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:41,000 5th, Silvington, the governor of Arizona, announced that the state would conduct an official investigation into the events of March 13th, 1997. 106 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:49,000 On June 19th, Governor Silvington announced that a police investigation had found the source of the lights. 107 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:53,000 And the governor even hinted that they had captured a suspect. 108 00:09:53,000 --> 00:10:00,000 Now I'll ask Officer Stein and his colleagues to escort the accused into the room so that we may all look upon the guilty party. 109 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,000 Don't get him too close to me, please. 110 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,000 Now this just goes to show that you guys are entirely too serious. 111 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:17,000 Governor Silvington's investigation had all been a joke. Eyewitnesses like Sandra Hickman were not amused. 112 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:24,000 I saw it. Other parents saw it. Teachers saw it. A lot of people in the valley saw it. But they won't give us an answer. 113 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:34,000 The witnesses were tired of being ignored. With nowhere else to turn, they started searching for answers...on their own. 114 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:44,000 A high-tech analysis of the lights brings up even more dramatic questions about just where they came from. 115 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,000 Next, Untruth or Scare. 116 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,000 The witnesses were shocked. 117 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:13,000 Hundreds of witnesses had seen the strange hovering lights in March of 1997. 118 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,000 Now Phoenix was burning with curiosity. 119 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,000 Was this a bona fide sighting of extraterrestrials? 120 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,000 Maybe there was another explanation. 121 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:27,000 For some reason, the governor's office considered the sighting a joke. There was no official investigation. 122 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:39,000 But the people wanted answers. And since the government wasn't talking, they came here. 123 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:45,000 Village Labs is a computer special effects company run by Jim DeLotoso and Michael Tanner. 124 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:51,000 The work they do for TV and movies, they also help investigate UFO sightings. 125 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,000 Village Labs agreed to study the reports and videotapes. 126 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:07,000 We're a lab. We're just like a police lab. We're just like a medical lab where professional investigators send us their evidence. 127 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,000 Thanks for coming to the Phoenix Lights briefing number four. 128 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:17,000 In town meetings like this, Jim and Michael listen to people describe what they'd seen that night. 129 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:28,000 Everyone had seen the lights, but different people had different explanations. 130 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:48,000 It took a long time for him to fly. 30 miles an hour. This thing didn't appear to fly. It appeared to float. 131 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,000 Michael Tanner got to know the witnesses one-on-one. 132 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:59,000 We have truck drivers. We have doctors. We have lawyers. We have retired military. And they're all genuine. 133 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,000 You could see pretty much right through it. And that's when we first saw it. 134 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:08,000 And then eventually it just started coming out closer so we could see a better view of it. 135 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,000 The investigators did interviews with more than a hundred witnesses. 136 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,000 Then they put all their data together to make a timeline of the evening. 137 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,000 Michael believes the two sightings were related. 138 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:27,000 If the lights did come from a UFO, it could have arrived around eight and left at 10.30. 139 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:35,000 Next, Jim turned to the physical evidence. The videotapes that were made the night of the phenomenon. 140 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,000 He took a tape of the 10 o'clock sighting into the lab. 141 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:45,000 So the landmarks that we have are the hill that's in the foreground of my art. 142 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:51,000 They loaded parts of the video into their computer to analyze the lights. 143 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:58,000 Jim's research shows that a candle flame, a light bulb, and a street light all have different optical characteristics. 144 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:04,000 In fact, even if some lights seem to look the same, they're actually very different from each other. 145 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,000 If you know how to look at them. 146 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:14,000 Jim examined the lights from airplanes and other sources in the city using the special software. 147 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:19,000 His analysis shows that each type of light makes its own kind of frequency wave. 148 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,000 Match the wave and you can tell what made the light. 149 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:32,000 According to Jim's analysis, the mysterious lights over Phoenix weren't like anything he'd seen before. 150 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:43,000 The unknown lights don't match. We can't get a match between the unknown and knowns that we have stored. 151 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:52,000 Some say the mystery is solved. Others are not so convinced. Is the truth still out there? 152 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,000 Find out next on Truth or Scare. 153 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:09,000 Lights seen above Phoenix had set off a wide-ranging investigation. 154 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:16,000 Witnesses testified about what they'd seen and UFO investigators were called in to examine the evidence. 155 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,000 Everyone involved in the case came up with their own theory to explain what they saw that night. 156 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,000 The mystery remained. 157 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,000 Isn't that weird? Look at that. 158 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:33,000 Skeptics said that there was a simple explanation. Military planes from nearby Luke Air Force Base. 159 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:39,000 Others theorized it could have been some kind of hoax or even unusual weather phenomena. 160 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:48,000 Then on June 25, 1997, a local TV station came up with a very convincing theory to explain the lights. 161 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:54,000 Well, it's a possible explanation into those mystery lights that appeared over the valley in March. 162 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:59,000 But some of you aren't buying it. 12 News has video that might explain what was going on. 163 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:06,000 Let's start with pictures that were taken on March 13. Many of you saw this row of lights as they hovered above the valley horizon. 164 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:13,000 Now, take a close look at these pictures that we shot just last night. These are flares that the Air Force was dropping near Hilo Bend. 165 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,000 Illuminers are used to light up battlefields during night combat. 166 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:22,000 They're attached to parachutes and dropped out of planes from a high altitude. 167 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,000 Flares like these can stay lit for as long as five minutes. 168 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,000 If flares were the explanation, then where did they come from? 169 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:35,000 At first, Air Force officials denied that any of their planes were in the area that night. 170 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,000 But after the news report came out, they changed their story. 171 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:46,000 Now they claim they were conducting night maneuvers near Phoenix and using illumination flares. 172 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:53,000 Our unit was flying March 13, 1997 as part of Operation Snowbird and we were conducting night training. 173 00:16:55,000 --> 00:17:04,000 That particular night, our aircraft flew to the North TAC range and that's where they deployed the flares for the training mission that evening. 174 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:11,000 Since witnesses saw the lights in the sky to the southwest, the flare explanation would make sense. 175 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:17,000 But some people still believe very different phenomena that they saw that night. 176 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:22,000 Something that can't be explained way as military flares. 177 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:33,000 While they look similar, they don't look the same as flares. Flares flicker. Flares illuminate what's around them and these lights over Phoenix didn't do that. 178 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,000 There was another crucial problem with the flare theory. 179 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:44,000 The Maryland Air National Guard stated that after they released the flares, they fell behind the mountain range to the southwest of Phoenix. 180 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:53,000 But that's not what many witnesses reported seeing. They say the lights were in front of the mountains. So how could they have been flares? 181 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:03,000 Dr. Leonoid Rudin might be able to settle the debate. His company is Cognitech, where they specialize in image processing. 182 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:14,000 Dr. Rudin analyzed the same images that Jim DeLito so had studied. By comparing it to a video taken during the day, he came to a very different conclusion. 183 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:21,000 He lines up the two images so that they are right on top of each other and then combines them into one tape. 184 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:33,000 Now he can look at the night video and day video at the same time. After studying the moment that the lights disappeared, Dr. Rudin believes they fell behind the mountains. 185 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:40,000 Therefore, the only conclusion we have is that those lights are behind the mountains, not in front of the mountains. 186 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:50,000 What do you think it was? It's true. The 10 o'clock event looks a lot like flares. 187 00:18:55,000 --> 00:19:05,000 But remember, there was another sighting that night. About two hours earlier, those lights can't be explained so easily. 188 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:14,000 A number of witnesses reported seeing a huge V-shaped formation passing over them between 815 and 845. 189 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:21,000 Only one person captured it on video tape. But there are plenty of theories about what it was. 190 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:32,000 Could be anything from a stealth aircraft or a black project. Could even be a military weapon that's actually creating like a hologram image. 191 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:39,000 And that's why the description varies on the shape and makeup of the object. 192 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:46,000 But if it was a secret military plane, they probably wouldn't have flown it over a huge city. 193 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:55,000 Jim DeLitozzo thinks the first event was something more mysterious and that the air guard was investigating it themselves. 194 00:19:55,000 --> 00:20:04,000 But what probably happened is that unknown aircraft of unknown origin penetrated into military airspace. This has happened before. 195 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:11,000 When the military released the flares, the unidentified visitors would have left the area, probably at top speed. 196 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,000 Maybe they'll be back. 197 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,000 Or maybe we'll be in the dark forever. 198 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:25,000 Whether they're man-made, whether they're from another galaxy, whether they're flares, I don't know. 199 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:33,000 At this point, they are truly UFOs, unidentified flying objects. 200 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:41,000 The two separate UFO events that were seen that night over Phoenix were never completely explained. 201 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:47,000 Around 10pm, the Maryland air guard says it dropped flares that landed behind the mountains. 202 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:53,000 But some believe this doesn't fully explain that V formation moving so quickly across the sky. 203 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,000 According to some, there may be things still left to investigate. 204 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:02,000 Until then, we may never know exactly what crossed the skies of Phoenix. 205 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:16,000 The first event was a mysterious event that was not fully explained. 206 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:21,000 The first event was a mysterious event that was not fully explained. 207 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:26,000 The first event was a mysterious event that was not fully explained. 208 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:31,000 The first event was a mysterious event that was not fully explained. 209 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,000 The first event was a mysterious event that was not fully explained. 210 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:41,000 Thanks for watching!